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« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2008, 11:38:46 PM »

put my lithium on teh scales and it was less than a kilo  Shocked

that was [possibly the stupidest thing ive ever said, i meant under half a kilo :D
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« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2008, 08:58:25 AM »

Just curious, why would you want an ultra light stick? the power gets reduced like mad, doesn't do any favours to tackling.
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« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2008, 08:28:11 PM »

Just curious, why would you want an ultra light stick? the power gets reduced like mad, doesn't do any favours to tackling.

I disagree about power. Depends on your technique. What you lose in momentum you can gain in head speed... also depends on your strength, as a stick that is too heavy for you would hinder your hitting.

Also you can dribble faster etc, get more pace on your flicks perhaps as well.
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« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2008, 09:39:27 AM »

mechanics of hitting have been played out to death before.
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« Reply #19 on: September 01, 2008, 12:48:39 PM »

mechanics of hitting have been played out to death before.

He asked why you might want an ultralight stick, I provided an answer.

Personally I am tending towards lighter and lighter sticks (I like to think as I become more skillfull!), and I don't see a noticeable difference in the power I can achieve from my hits.
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« Reply #20 on: September 01, 2008, 01:07:41 PM »

Surely you would to practise with a heavier stick than your "game one" so to speak. on the idea similar to resistance running in the swimming pool or on sand.
If you can do everything well with the heavier stick whem you use a lighter stick dribbling , head etc should be so much more?
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« Reply #21 on: September 01, 2008, 08:52:04 PM »

i think the ultralight stick has vastly enhanced my game to be honest, since i started using my kookaburra hydrogen its noticable to all that my shooting has improved alot powerwise and my dribbling etc

i guess it does depend on your technique though as one of my mates swears by a head heavy stick and one of our other players loves heavier sticks in general...just down to technique and preferance i guess........
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« Reply #22 on: September 01, 2008, 09:47:13 PM »

Surely you would to practise with a heavier stick than your "game one" so to speak. on the idea similar to resistance running in the swimming pool or on sand.
If you can do everything well with the heavier stick whem you use a lighter stick dribbling , head etc should be so much more?

I would rather go for the argument of being "used" to using your match stick, and knowing you can do something 99% of the time.
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« Reply #23 on: September 02, 2008, 08:26:03 PM »

i personally prefer the Low Bow to the weight but the weight hasn't changed my hitting because as has been said you can achieve greater speed. Shooting is therefore faster, maybe not as powerful by a fraction but i can get snapshots off very nicely and the fact of gone up to 95% carbon means its stiffer than my old stick and therefore more powerful i feel.

But the Malik Assassin is such a nice hitter, such a nice feel, im looking forward to games where i play defence and dont wnat to hurt my poor Lithium so will bring out the old Malik Wink
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« Reply #24 on: September 03, 2008, 08:40:47 AM »

doesn't F=m x a? unless you can really gain a huge lot more acceleration off an ultralight.

But then why don't more internationals use ultralights or wooden sticks?
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« Reply #25 on: September 03, 2008, 08:53:11 PM »

it does..... however a= (V-U)/t the greater the initial speed of the stick will generate enough power to gain what is lost with the mass....

down to technique really if you have a slow swing but heavy stick compared to a fast swing and light stick they basically in an ideal situation without regard to friction upon the stick moving through the air, etc etc will balance each other out hypotheticly speaking!

dont forget though when a force is generated upon an object ( stick to ball ) the same force (ball to stick ) is generated aswell, also potential and kinetic energy used and lost could be taken into account........... Rofl
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« Reply #26 on: September 03, 2008, 08:57:46 PM »

it does..... however a= (V-U)/t the greater the initial speed of the stick will generate enough power to gain what is lost with the mass....

That is depending when you take the initial point though, generally taking a hit, I would think you would take the initial point to be the stationary one where you start moving the stick - therefore the initial speed will always be 0 Happy
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« Reply #27 on: September 08, 2008, 01:03:51 PM »

Most light sticks are usually around 560-580g, so no surprises that they are under a kilo!
The ultralight sticks tend to be around the 525g mark.
Indoor sticks are generally 100g lighter than outdoor sticks, so usually around 450g.
My grays gx6000 turbo powerbeam was 610g (medium weight) and my new stick dita titan sf2 is 575g.  The difference between the two is noticeable, though only 35g. God knows what changing to something around 400/500g would be like!
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