Controlled lifting dangerous play and the sweep

NicfromSweden 13
mani 8
bigmick 6
majwalrus 5
JiMMM 5
serbulator 4
silky 4
johncoxon 4
Gocu 4
kristof 3

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[Spunko]

No that's a drag flick. A sweep is a sweep. You sweep the stick along the ground and "hit" the ball. The sweep is not a hit, not a flick, not a drag, not a push or anything else! A sweep is a sweep!

Bloody hell this has become hard work!

It's not a drag flick...what I described is missing several of the key elements of a drag flick - most notably the footwork, and the lack of a flick!

Well in that case it's a sweep and describing it as a drag makes no sense since the ball does not start in contact with the stick.

[justin]

"You sweep the stick along the ground and "hit" the ball".

So what is the difference between a sweep and a slap-hit(which is defined in just that way, AFAIK)?
It seems to me that the 'sweep' is a very loose term which has no place in the rules because it just means that the stick is in contact with the playing surface until it is in contact with the ball (so it's a slap-hit, isn't it?)
If the ball is pushed (ie with no 'backlift) along the surface, it's just a push...the technique is irrelevant as far as the rules are concerned....one's a hit and the other is a push.

A drag(as opposed to a drag-flick) is something else, in the rules, because it's forbidden at a PS.....it involves the ball being, initiallly, behind the feet.
AFAIK, the rules don't define a drag-flick.....but we know one when we see it

[Spunko]

The underside of the stick shaft is not in contact with the ground for a slap hit.

[John]

so how do you sweep and keep knuckles then?

[Spunko]

so how do you sweep and keep knuckles then?

Gloves.

[justin]

This is hair-splitting.

[Grumpy]

hair spliiting i have not enough hair as it is can i have all the split hairs

[Diligent]

I have hair.

A sweep is a sweep. You sweep the stick along the ground and "hit" the ball. The sweep is not a hit, not a flick, not a drag, not a push or anything else! A sweep is a sweep!

Bloody hell this has become hard work!

'You sweep the stick along the ground and "hit" the ball.' That makes it a hit. Back to the OP - if the hit produces a 'controlled lift' it is raising the ball with an intentional hit, which Rule 9.9 forbids.

If you were to put the stick against the ball and then sweep, it is a push - it is usually called a drag if the ball starts well back allowing a long dragging push, or a flick, if the ball is in front of the feet so only a short push is possible.