Self pass

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[foozbear]

i look forward to this....now i can show my wheels and maybe impress someone!

[deegum]

No - same as the tap in Rugby, if you are closer then you cannot engage till you've retired the correct distance

At least the tap in rugby is taken from the "correct" spot,
 
Don't know about EHL, but I've always held the view that under FIH rules  once the ball is played the FH is over, all restrictions on the defence removed



So let's hope the new rules make it VERY clear, especially since it is such a change.
Preferably with a clear statement  eg.
 no defender within 5m when the free is taken may play the ball until it is played for a second time by the taker, or any other eligible player

or: once the FH is taken any defender whether with in 5m at the time or other wise may play or attempt to play the ball.

PS Isn't it great debating a rule that doesn't exist .

[controller]

By debating will tell us it will work or not, that way we have an opinion on the matter before they bring it in, but, no doubt, it will be only on International and EHL games.

But that is my opinion......interpretations who wants them...

[Hockeyjon]

Controller
The self pass is being adopted in the Scottish NL upper split in February (Last I heard) I did indicated a few posts ago that if Nat associations don't adopt this rule quickly within thier Domestic leagues they will definetly be at a disadvantage at the Euro Nation events in the summer. One or 2 poor results could be the differance between relegation & promotion at these tournaments, and with the increase in the speed of the game due to the self pass rule, match fitness levels will be crucial

[keely]

PS Isn't it great debating a rule that doesn't exist .

It's right up there with "debating rules that we wished existed" and "debating rules that used to exist". All very, very useful.

[Snoody]

And not a smiley in sight...

[keely]

I gotta start campaigning for the new award
...

[BlackCat]

I'm wondering if anyone thinks this rule will reduce the number of aerials used in the game? 

[Hockeyjon]

Im not convinced it will! My experience is this tactic is commonly used by teams who are playing a more technically efficient team, or chasing a game, ususally to get the ball from defence to offence quickly avoiding a congested and perhaps gifted midfield, it may reduce the amount of scooped balls played from outside the 23 into the circle, but as with any new rule, we will have wait and see how the coaches adapt tactics to maximie the change. Umpires are going to have to review thier positioning in relation to play as the game will be quicker. I think it may be more problematic for us initially, than players
until the interpretation of the rule settles down.

[redumpire]

PS Isn't it great debating a rule that doesn't exist .

It's so much worse than debating the much better rules that used to exist but don't any more isn't it...?


EDIT: Added before I read K's reply.  Great minds thinking alike or fools seldom differing?  You decide...!

[keely]

Umpires are going to have to review thier positioning in relation to play as the game will be quicker. I think it may be more problematic for us initially, than players until the interpretation of the rule settles down.

Ok, you're officially scaring me now.

EDIT: Added before I read K's reply.  Great minds thinking alike or fools seldom differing?  You decide...!

You've been officially scaring me for over 2 years now.

[Hockeyjon]

Keely
Simply a heads up, thats all. Given a few weeks a fit girl like you will be absolutly fine. Finely tuned beer athletes like myself may take a while longer!!!

[ragyrascal]

Hideous, hideous rule. Stop messing with the game... 

[BlackCat]

I think it's an interesting rule, the one I think it ridiculous is the 'no direct hit into the circle'.

If we're trying to make the game 'sexier', in other words, more goals, why are they eliminating a play that often leads to goals and/or PCs?

And I don't buy into the 'unfortunate' fouls this creates.

But I digress, this thread is about the self-pass...

As a player and umpire, one of my pet peeves are other umpires who don't keep up with the play or make any effort to run.  This will rule will definitely force the issue... which makes me happy (in a spiteful, I can keep up with the play, way).

[ragyrascal]

I think it's an interesting rule, the one I think it ridiculous is the 'no direct hit into the circle'.

If we're trying to make the game 'sexier', in other words, more goals, why are they eliminating a play that often leads to goals and/or PCs?

And I don't buy into the 'unfortunate' fouls this creates.

But I digress, this thread is about the self-pass...

As a player and umpire, one of my pet peeves are other umpires who don't keep up with the play or make any effort to run.  This will rule will definitely force the issue... which makes me happy (in a spiteful, I can keep up with the play, way).

That last point is very valid, and certainly one which makes me very wary should this rule ever filter down to the lower levels - I just can't see too many umpires keeping pace with the ball, and I don't mean that disrespectfully, but in the leagues I play in they struggle to keep up with static free hits...
I think I am the only person who things this whole thing is a mistake.
The game was good, is good, we don't need to bring in new rules every other year to please TV viewers, they should make the effort to LEARN the rules and then enjoy the game in its pure, unadulterated form. This TV-conformist manipulation of the rules year in, year out, just makes me really, really angry and just means any new spectators the game did pick up after the Olympics for example, now have a whole 'nother new rule to get to grips with.
This is all wrong.