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« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2009, 01:21:50 PM »

With the new auto-play rule, is there much point to leaving the circle anymore? Best case scenario sees the ball over the sideline, the attacker is now in a position to play on leaving the goalkeeper in no-mans-land...

Good point Camel however if you're not playing in a multi-ball scenario it could be beneficial if, whilst you are clearing the ball, you can knock it far enough away to give the defence enough time to get back before the player has time to utilise the self pass.
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« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2009, 03:54:38 PM »

Slightly off-topic, but what sort of success rate do people achieve with 1-v-1 situations?
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« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2009, 09:43:20 PM »

In my youth I used to love coming out of the D to make challenges and interceptions but I would not recommend it and have only done it twice this season.  You take a massive risk by doing it - I'd only use it for interceptions or making a foul in the last seconds of a game my team are winning 1-0.  I would rather be confident in my technique inside the D in a 1-v-1 and drive the forward away from the goal, prevent a shooting opportunity and make time for the cavalry to arrive!
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« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2009, 10:59:53 PM »

Slightly off-topic, but what sort of success rate do people achieve with 1-v-1 situations?
I suppose the answer is, "it depends". Are you talking about fast breaks (where you have time to come out to meet the attacker) or where there's less time and they just get a passing shot off?

I had better successes than most; I think I aimed for about 8 out of 10. I was very fast, quite tall and very agile which were definite pluses. Never being afraid to play the ball with your body always paid off for me, even if it meant the attacker would mysteriously fall over Confused  Wink
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« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2009, 10:57:22 AM »

as an attacker, as the move by the keeper is so  unusual/unexpected they may catch the attacker off gaurd and make him mess it up...
Buit risky though
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« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2009, 02:48:12 PM »

agreed with camel if you come out and tackle the player what then find a pass? from there if there is a turn over and the side is of a high standard they will stretch and leave you looking like an idiot.
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« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2009, 09:25:57 PM »

agreed with camel if you come out and tackle the player what then find a pass? from there if there is a turn over and the side is of a high standard they will stretch and leave you looking like an idiot.
Ball, meet sideline. Sideline, meet ball.  Yes
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« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2009, 12:38:02 AM »

Ball, meet sideline. Sideline, meet ball.  Yes

Hello auto-play...
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« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2009, 09:46:24 AM »

Hello auto-play...

If you go for the sideline, it's got to be in space, far enough from the opposition, giving you enough time to recover your ground. The decision process for that differs if you play at a level that involves ball boys. Lower down the orders, you have more time to make your ground back
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« Reply #24 on: May 03, 2009, 03:23:29 AM »

Hello auto-play...
You've got me there! I hadn't considered that.
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« Reply #25 on: May 04, 2009, 02:34:44 AM »

even with Auto-play the ball will not be instantly back in play.  Even if 5 seconds is gained that would allow time for any of your players near the halfway line to get back in defense, giving you a MUCH better chance at preventing a shot from even occurring.
All of this needs to be taken into consideration, sure, but if you're going to chase a ball down outside the D, there has to be an advantage in doing so, and clearing a ball wide or high over the sidelines before backpedaling into the D gives you AT THE LEAST, 3-4 seconds you otherwise wouldn't have.
The point of which is to allow your defense-men to set up.
Seems worthwhile to me.
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« Reply #26 on: May 23, 2009, 01:23:36 PM »

i personally think it could be a good scare tactic in situations where the attacker doesnt know much about you and what you do. i personally have done it a couple of times at national tournaments (before the auto-play rule) and come up trumps with 4 succesful tackles 1 pass and 3 clearances. also a good thing to do which is not technically coming out of the cicrcle but come up to the line get low channel the ctricker then almost poke tackle him which works very very well

when tackeling the oppo player the only way i will do it is if i meet him at the same time as the ball so he has too much to think about so he either miss traps or i tackle him.
the circumstance would be there entire forward line on me without defenders.
 but thats just me im still young and learning :D
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« Reply #27 on: June 28, 2009, 11:40:33 AM »

Well i wait at the stroke spot ready to sprint when the player looks down at the ball or for a pass option and before he knows it IM ON HIS ASS!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #28 on: June 29, 2009, 09:31:33 AM »

made a stick clearance from outside the top of the D yesterday.  Has 2 forwards and my defender all running should to shoulder from a through ball.  Ball was coming straight at me but as it crossed the 25 i knew it wouldn't reach the D, so i moved out and swept the ball clear out to the left, Left Half picked up, and we went on the attack.  The two forwards would've been within 2 yards from when i did it, and they didn't have time to react.

Whits perhaps not technically a challenge.  Had i hesitated, and waited in the 'D' it would've become a challenged ball. 

I think you have to be prepared to leave the D and do what you need to do, just as you need to be ready in the D, to do what you need to do.  Prevention is better then a cure.
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« Reply #29 on: June 29, 2009, 10:25:38 AM »

Prevention is better then a cure.

My matra, that one. To score, you have to get a shot in the D. Keep them out the D and they can't score
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