slidingdive tackles and chirping

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[Twister]

swept the ball away cleanly with a shave tackle, but his followthrough smacked the player's stick away.

I think this is fundamentally different from a sliding tackle making contact with the body after the ball is played.

I'd say that in a lot of tackles some stick on stick contact is inevitable, and that penalising it often frustrates the players.  If a player has executed a clean shave tackle (a really high-level skill), and timed it well enough to take only ball first, then I wouldn't penalise any subsequent stick contact - the attacker has lost possession.  By penalising, it may look to the players as if you have mis-read the first, clean, tackle.

[Hacker]

Mosely59, as a GK coach I would expect any of my keepers to be penalised if they slide into a player in the action of taking the ball. It is a poor skill. The skill set required is to be able to drop and smotehr the ball so that any minor forward momentum is controlled and then to do a controlled clearance. That is why a keeper should check the sliding charactersitics of a pitch in order to know what will happen.

[mosley59]

So the general consensus is that a GK should get penalised if they take out a player as part of an action, regardless of them having taking the player out as part of a controlled slide to play the ball legally?

Agreed Twister, it has nothing to do with a sliding tackle, I was simply responding to the comment regarding "but I got the ball first!".

[dodgeyumpires]

I dont think thats right. Each and every tackle will be different and have to blow on its own merrits.

To me, I think of it more like a stick.... the GK is a huge giant stick! And able to play the ball with any part of that stick.
If a defender makes a great tackle and the attacker trips over the defenders stick, its usually play on, (being its not dangerous and not a deliberate trip). Same with the GK, he slides, makes a save, doesnt deliberately trip anyone and is reasonably safe, play on. Of course... each scenario still has to be taken seperately and on its own merrits still

[keely]

Good analogy, dodgey.

[Paul Watts]

but will he fit through a stick ring 

[justin]

Or meet the maximum curvature requirements?

[foozbear]

dont forget about being an exotic shape... 

[ArchusXV]

being an ex-ruby player and having very little finesse in any part of my life i quite like the ball first, man second "rule"

but thats because i like contact

[redumpire]

being an ex-ruby player and having very little finesse in any part of my life

Never thought that Pokemon did much for one's finesse Archus...!   

[ArchusXV]

, i prefer sapphire