Review Oakley LB9000 - amateur player

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  1. asc1991

    asc1991 FHF Top Player

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    Here is my review of the Oakley LB9000. @BossFHockey has already reviewed it, so check out his thoughts, he is a better player than me and that's quite important for this review.

    I am currently selling it, feel free to PM me (37.5", UK)

    I'm a club level player, decent, not amazing, so my review is coming from that perspective.
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    Style 9/10
    The stick looks really good. Simple black finish, not trying to be flashy. Grooves in the back of the stick add a little something too. I have recently replaced the white grip with a black grip so the whole thing is just black (it looks fierce!). As a side note, the stock grip is pretty rubbish. It's white leather, very glossy, if it rains in the slightest or gets wet it becomes like a bar of soap.

    Feel 7/10
    The stick is very hard and stiff, which for a better player could be amazing. But for me, not so much. Most of the time it's fine and it has it's benefits, but in terms of close ball control, I've had better.

    Striking 9/10
    The firmness of the stick gives it power. I mean wow, the ball pings off this thing so so well.

    Reverse 7/10
    Reverse hitting is my thing (I'm a leftie, which helps), but I make more miss-hits with this than I did with my Uber Boomerwang, and hits are less powerful. I'm not sure if it's to do with strength and reinforcement or to do with the bow (both have extreme low bows).

    Aerials 7/10
    Similar story, less distance than my Uber and a higher fail rate, possible because of the scooped head on the Uber.

    Flicking 7/10
    Not drag-flicking... but for general flicking, it is good, I struggle to generate the power that I can with other sticks though. Possibly because of the stiffness. However it is very good for flicking low balls with power, so out of danger, into the opposition D, anything where you want to clear a few players.

    Overall It's the stiffness that makes it not quite suit me - that is, of course, due to my ability level and I would love to see how some of our national league boys could cope with it. It's a bit like a powerful sports car, in the right hands it is hard to beat, but it is unforgiving.
     
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    Didn't Jamie Dwyer call @BossFHockey "Boss of Hockey?" [/offtopic]

    Otherwise thanks for the review!
     
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    No I was introduced to him as "boss of hockey"

    Thanks for the review


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    I personally have a different view on this stick...
    My coach is able to buy sticks without their stickers etc, directly from Pakistan or India or a similar Asian country where these sticks are made, for almost no money. So you basically get a stick which is completely black (just like this one) for like no money.
    This stick is exactly one of those sticks he bought. It has the 2 little grooves on the backside, the low-boow, high-carbon percentage and the groove. Oakley sells this LB9000 at 169,80 euros. He bought it for 70 euros.
    The biggest problem is that Oakley, in contrast to other brands, doesn't even design their sticks. Well, they placed 2 stickers. And they sell it for almost 2,5x the price of the 'Pakistan version'.
     
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    I'd love a photo of his stick!

    As a mark-up that doesn't seem to ridiculous though. Also couldn't you do this with a tonne of stick brands? I would state the styling isn't really justification as they could easily colour it differently and add different logos etc.I personally like that they have kept the design simple, I find many brands sticks look very 'busy'. I'm not deliberately trying to contradict or disagree, I imagine you're probably pretty accurate with all this, just it doesn't seem that weird to me.
     
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    Yes, indeed I know a lot of brands do this. If I remember correctly one of the other sticks was a Reece stick, or something from the Australian side. Unfortunately I can't send you a photo... It belongs to someone who moved to another club so I don't see him anymore so sorry... But, I can assure you, it was exactly the same as this Oakley, I came across Oakley about 3 days after that guy received it and let me play with it, and I immediately recognized it. It was a great stick tho!
    But it made me have mixed feelings about Oakley.
     
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    Do you know where he orders them from?
     
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    I would like to point out just because a stick looks the same doesn't mean it is the same. If you spray paint all the sticks on the market matt black then they would all look the same (with a couple of exceptions obviously) but they dont all play the same because of differences in the manufacturing process.
    Again I'm not trying to be argumentative but I think its harsh on any brand to say that 2 similar looking sticks, especially if they use the same or similar moulds, are exactly the same. Would you say that Gryphon Tour DII is the same as a Ritual Specialist if they had the same paint job just because they are both lowbows? No because they don't play the same. And in terms of mark-ups you also have to factor in other costs in the retail price such as creating mould (if they did), sampling of different layups, compositions etc, and other thing in the price so saying you can get a stick for 70Euros therefore the cost above that must be company profit isn't correct. You can buy a 100% (or however close to 100% you can really get) carbon hockey stick for £40 from Model, but I would say it doesn't play the same as other hockey sticks, not saying its bad, I have one and I really like it, but it's not the same as another stick that comes out of their factory under a different brand.

    Sorry if that comes off as a rant, its just a common misconception that really grates on me.
     
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    I understand you! The reason why I think it's the same isn't because of the color. It's first, the mould is the same; bow and thickness of the head. But the most important reason is it had the same 2 'line/groove' in the backside of the stick. Like the 3 adidas stripes, but only 2 of them and they go through the hook. That's what made me think it's this one.
     
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    And yes, a lot of sticks are really overpriced. Almost every stick from a major stick brand. If you compare it to brands which offer the same for less.
     
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    Like the old kookaburra moulds had which maybe the factory is reusing? But also doesn't take into account different layups/composition.

    Again not to argue it's just a pet peeve I can't not discuss. Sorry

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    Ooh, I don't really know, it's just when I saw the Oakley at first, I directly linked it to that one. I really don't know the specifications etc, where it came from. It just looked exactly the same as the 'cheap Pakistani one'
     
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    It's fair enough I don't know if oakley own their own molds or not so it might be they use the same one. I just get annoyed when people jump to "it's just a (insert other brand here) with a different paint job and £xx added to the price" when there is something similar about shapes etc

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