Salomon Speedcross 3 Trail Shoes

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  1. Stretch

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    Righto, first attempt at a review - go easy!!
    some background first:
    I decided to move away from a traditional hockey shoe this season as I have recently made the transition to a more minimal running shoe off the pitch and I was no longer finding my Asics Neos comfortable as a result. I was also finding the Neos to be very stiff and heavy after the very light and very flexible running shoes I had been fitted with.

    I ended up with these shoes in particular based solely on the advice and running analysis of a specialist sports shoe store staffed by podiatrists. My criteria were:

    - have tread which will grip well on both sand based, hybrid and water pitches
    - be more similar in flex, weight and heel-to-toe drop of my running shoes
    - should be compatible with sprinting and lunging/side stepping movements (as much as possible) because that is what I do as a goalie
    - does NOT need to have any protection on the ankle, toes or body of the shoe (again, I'm a goalie, my kickers do that well enough!)

    Based on my analysis from my running shoe fitting, I was given the Salomon Speedcross 3 shoes. I have attached some photos showing both the body and the tread

    I had never heard of the brand or seen the shoe before, but I must say they were immediately comfortable and felt good straight away - always a good sign! On researching later, I have found that Salomon are a very reputable and popular alpine trail racing shoe. Alpine trail racing. And they say goalies are crazy!

    I had a training session in them tonight, here are my impressions:

    Comfort was immediately very good, and once I was on the turf they continued to be very good right out of the box with no "wearing in" required. The heel and ankle area is VERY well padded and really hugs my heel, meaning my foot stayed bedded properly in the heel of the shoe and there was no friction, slipping or movement.

    These shoes are very light for a non-minimal trail shoe at 313g (my runners are 240g for comparison), which make my Neos feel like bricks by comparison (350g)! They are also significantly more flexible through the toes than the Neos which are very firm and rigid in my experience. The soles of the Salomons also have a much more cushioned feeling. Springy though, not 'soft'.

    They have a larger heel-to-toe drop. My running shoes are only 4mm whereas these are 11mm, however I found when doing my goalie movements (sprints, lateral shuttles, lunges etc) that this didn't affect me. I mean I don't ever really just 'run' in goal, so having the heel should be less of a problem here. I think also, all these movements are naturally up on the balls of your feet, so there is no real 'foot strike' position (mid-sole or heel) issues for the heel-to-toe drop to have an impact on. The running forums tell me that a larger heel allows for better agility movements, and also helps relieve heel stress when descending steeper terrain. The agility will help me, but I hope I never find a steep slope to descend on the pitch! :D

    The grip was SENSATIONAL! I felt 'connected' to the water based turf in a really comforting way, but without it feeling sticky. When I put my foot down, it didn't slip at all and when I pushed off to sprint or lunge, again it was a very stable base. I haven't tried sand yet. I will update when I have.

    As mentioned, protection was NOT a factor for me. These shoes would provide absolutely zero protection from the ball, so if this is a consideration for you perhaps think again. This is the trade off for light weight.

    The shoes are designed for "mountain trail running" according to the manufacturer's website. They have a sort of skin along the sides where the upper joins the sole which is supposed to help keep out mud etc. I found it kept a lot of the water from the pitch out instead! These are not waterproof at all (the upper is light and very permeable by water) but I suppose this skin was keeping enough of it away to make a difference. After a session on wet turf in my Neos, my feet come off really soaked. In these, the insole and my socks were still dry. A definite win in my book.

    For the goalies out there, the open tread pattern is fairly accommodating to my obo kicker straps, although not fully. I found that I could get the straps to nestle fairly comfortably between the cleats, but there was not a gap where the straps could sit flat in between. There was a slight reduction in the grip due to small bits of protruding strap, however this seems to settle as the session went on. I don't think whole cleats would need to be removed, but perhaps the edges of some could be trimmed out of the way - especially for the toe strap. The second strap actually finds its way quite easily behind a row of the tread. I don't think I will cut these shoes, but perhaps if it looks like my straps are wearing too quickly I may reconsider.

    I really liked the lacing system. It is a super fine elastic cord, made out of Kevlar so they reckon it WON'T snap (challenge accepted? :D). Anyway, I found it MUCH better than laces for wearing with kickers, as I found the knotted laces would get pushed painfully in to the top of my foot by the kicker. With these, the fastening toggle thingy tucks away into a pouch on the shoe tongue so the only thing pushing into my foot was a lovely soft padded shoe tongue! A nice touch :)

    Verdict: I am very happy with these shoes and would recommend them to other goalies. I think the lack of protection would be risky on the field...
     

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  2. Jammin

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    Where did you purchase these? If they're as grippy as you say they are I might be interested in a pair, I've slipped over at least once a game in the Adidas Kanadias I got for christmas.
     
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    Nice review Jill.

    I've been looking at the salomon range for something to replace my old asics.

    Always good to find something a bit different...

    :D
     
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    Very good review. I have a pair myself that I use for whenever I have to play outfield, I got them to replace the Adidas kanadias that I now use for goalkeeping, as I had the problem with them that they were very good in a straight line, but had no grip if I wanted to turn or stop quickly, whereas the Salomons are very good in that area.
     
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    Salomon are absolutely fab, I've used my trail shoes once or twice on the pitch.
     
  6. Stretch

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    I get my sport shoes fitted at Shoe Logic at the City Baths in the Melbourne CBD. They are all podiatrists and they analyse your running on a treadmill with cameras to make sure that the shoes work properly for your feet. Can't recommend them highly enough :)

    Thanks for the feedback guys!

    Update: played on a hybrid pitch (was dry) this morning, performance and grip was still very good! Might be on sand this afternoon, I'll let you know!
     
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    Bit of a trek for me from London then :p
     
  8. Stretch

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    Lol little bit! Try the Salomon website, you should be able to find local stockists listed there I'm sure!
     
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    Update 2: sand dressed turf was also very good! Very happy with the performance of these shoes on all surfaces I play (water, hybrid and sand)

    I actually managed to launch into an aerial dive today, and I attribute this to the shoes providing a proper base as I've never actually managed to get those sort of saves going before :)
     
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    Great review! I'm usually an Asics fan (non hockey shoes!) I hate the weight and the grip on the hockey type shoes. Will definitely give the salomons a try once my A's are gone.
     
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    Hello.
    First of all, sorry to bring this topic back to life, haha.
    I was looking into these exact same shoes and in classic keeper fashion, I went with my kickers to try them at the store.
    Didn't you find the cleats way too flexible? I really had trouble trying to put the kicker on (I play with the rear strap very tight), and I felt I could easily snap one of the little cleats immediately off just by passing the strap.
    How have they been on the long term for you?
    Thanks a lot
     
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    They won't break because they are rubber and flexible. You could just cut the cleats them off so your straps will never have a problem. For me the cleats just wore down pretty fast.
     
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    Mono I played and trained in them for a whole season and not a single cleat was snapped by my straps :)

    I did end up with some strap wear (as I didn't cut any cleats away to form channels) but they wore slower than in un-cut neos.

    Here is a photo of the soles after a full year of use on sand, hybrid and water (excuse the dirt, I also use them train running from time to time!):

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    As you can see, they're pretty much gone now under the balls of my feet, so when I return to hockey I will probably buy a new pair :) suppose I should show my coach! (SEE!? I TOLD you I was on the balls of my feet! :p )

    I'll admit, the grip on my neos didn't wear down anywhere near that much in the same time period, but then again they never really felt like they gripped properly for me in the first place!
     
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    Nice.
    I think I'll give them a try. Last year I "consumed" 2 pairs of Adidas Kanadia (average 5 trainings a week, only water based pitch), nothing wrong with them really.
    But maybe that little edge in grip is worth the try.
    Thanks!
     
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    Salomon shoes are winded with the ultra-lightweight racing-flat shoes.They provide comfort and easy to manage for any conditions...
     
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    Hi,

    So I have some of these and was going to write a review until I saw this, so I'll just sumarise:

    Total: 5/10

    Pros
    • The grip is amazing, like no shoes I've owned before.
    • The shoes are very light
    Cons
    • The laces are a form of drawstring. Whilst I like the idea the toggle is very fiddly and the laces long (there's a small pouch to tuck away excess) so overall it's no quicker than laces. Also I like my laces v.tight and it is hard to with these without worrying about snapping the thin string (but maybe it's super strong!?).
    • Whilst build quality generally looks good, and I think structurally it is, the colouring began fading away really quick (5 uses) from even the slightest scuffs.
    • The shoe, whilst light, is extremely clumpy.
    • The heel is massive, it adds an extra inch+, at 6ft 3in that is not something I want. Due to this and the above point I do not feel stable in them.
    Other
    • As with all Salomon shoes, the fit is very wide.
    I took a point off the score due to the price. I expected better. My are going to be returned due to the immediate cosmetic wear from minor and light use.
     
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    Honestly, it seems you're very hard to please or you've got something against the shoe. 'Grip is amazing' yet still 5/10 - what's that about? 'Is extremely clumpy and has a massive heel' sounds like a complaint you could make with just about every single hockey boot on the market, sounds like you're clutching at straws here especially considering how light you yourself admitted they were. Re: colours fading, you must remember that these shoes are not built for hockey. Hockey is not a normal use case for trail runners and frankly, I'd be surprised if they'd give you a refund if the supplier knew what you'd been using them for. You probably won't find better shoes than this. Try the Adidas TR8s if your stuck.
     
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    Grip can be great without liking the shoe. I tried them and the heel is considerably bigger than all the other already big heels on hockey shoes. It really is. I could tell they were very grippy and so perfect for off road terrain, but they did feel clunky to me for playing hockey. Cant comment on the cosmetic wear as we haven't seen the shoes.

    "you won't find better shoes than this" I reckon he almost definitely will if he didn't like them? Whats the problem?
     
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    Grip is amazing. They can be clumpy and light at the same time. If I strapped 2 blocks of polystyrene to my feet they would be very light, but very clumpy.

    The damage wasn't done on the hockey pitch. I wanted them as a utility sports-shoe. In parts they looked more worn after 5hrs light use than Adidas trainers I have done, literally thousands of miles, multiple sports, been in the sea with, and were half the price. Part of the issue is that some of the material around the toe is "painted" or alike, meaning the colour wears off. Imagine black rubber painted blue, opposed to just using blue rubber...

    The heel is far bigger than other shoes (inc. hockey).

    My last Adidas hockey shoes lasted 8 years and 6 hockey seasons.
     

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